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[linux-lvm] File-system uuid on LVM snapshot
Rajesh Joseph
2014-06-05 08:26:47 UTC
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Hi all,

Origin volume and snapshot volume share the same file-system UUID. So after the snapshot we fix the uuid by running xfs_admin or tune2fs.
Do you have any recommendation or best practice in this regard?

Thanks & Regards,
Rajesh
Zdenek Kabelac
2014-06-05 09:19:51 UTC
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Post by Rajesh Joseph
Hi all,
Origin volume and snapshot volume share the same file-system UUID. So after the snapshot we fix the uuid by running xfs_admin or tune2fs.
Do you have any recommendation or best practice in this regard?
With thin pools and thin volumes - snapshot of thin volume is now created
'inactive' and it's skipped from default activation (you could always
override skip with -K i.e. : lvchange -ay -K vg/mythinsnap)

So with thins you should mostly have only a single volume active with the FS
UUID. If you happen to have multiple volumes active and you need to mount xfs
filesystem - use 'nouuid' (and eventually norecovery for read-only
activated snapshots) mount options.

For old-snapshosts - all volumes need to be available/active - so you need to
use 'nouuid' option always.

I don't see much point in changing FS UUID on your snapshot - unless of
course you plan to use snapshots as different volumes with just a 'single'
starting point (i.e. preinstalled tree of files)

Regards

Zdenek
Rajesh Joseph
2014-06-05 09:29:56 UTC
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Thanks Zdenek for the quick reply.

We are using thin volumes and thin snapshot, but we need all or most snapshots active. Therefore we are enabling the snapshot by-default.
As you suggested we can have a workaround to mount those snapshot volumes by using 'nouuid' option.
But the problem is in most of our use case the origin volume is mounted using the /etc/fstab. And here the mount entry is made using UUID.
So in some cases instead of Origin volume the snapshot volume get mounted.

Thanks & Regards,
Rajesh

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Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] File-system uuid on LVM snapshot
Post by Rajesh Joseph
Hi all,
Origin volume and snapshot volume share the same file-system UUID. So after
the snapshot we fix the uuid by running xfs_admin or tune2fs.
Do you have any recommendation or best practice in this regard?
With thin pools and thin volumes - snapshot of thin volume is now created
'inactive' and it's skipped from default activation (you could always
override skip with -K i.e. : lvchange -ay -K vg/mythinsnap)
So with thins you should mostly have only a single volume active with the FS
UUID. If you happen to have multiple volumes active and you need to mount xfs
filesystem - use 'nouuid' (and eventually norecovery for read-only
activated snapshots) mount options.
For old-snapshosts - all volumes need to be available/active - so you need to
use 'nouuid' option always.
I don't see much point in changing FS UUID on your snapshot - unless of
course you plan to use snapshots as different volumes with just a 'single'
starting point (i.e. preinstalled tree of files)
Regards
Zdenek
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Zdenek Kabelac
2014-06-05 10:31:23 UTC
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Post by Rajesh Joseph
Thanks Zdenek for the quick reply.
We are using thin volumes and thin snapshot, but we need all or most snapshots active. Therefore we are enabling the snapshot by-default.
As you suggested we can have a workaround to mount those snapshot volumes by using 'nouuid' option.
But the problem is in most of our use case the origin volume is mounted using the /etc/fstab. And here the mount entry is made using UUID.
So in some cases instead of Origin volume the snapshot volume get mounted.
So this rather looks like you are not using 'snapshot' as snapshot but rather
as a quick COW device clone - where you obviously need to change identifiers,
since they are used later independently. (something like we do with
'vgimportclone' where we duplicate VG)

Maybe it might be worth to think about fsadm extension to support filesystem
cloning as a built-in feature which would handle change if fs UUID across
different filesystems...

Regards

Zdenek

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